V30 Screen Colors and Achieving D65 white. A Guide.

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First off, D65 is impossible on this phone without using Comfort View.

The best I was able to achieve (using a Konica Minolta CS-200 chroma meter, brightness at 50%, auto deselected) was x=.285, y=.325 (D65 is x=.313, y=.329), so I'm a little on the blue side. Here are the settings I used:

Screen Color:
Select Custom and hit the gear icon
Color Temperature: Cooler (slider all the way to the left).
RGB Levels:
Red: maximum
Green: maximum
Blue: MINimum
Result: x=.285, y=.325
If this is too green for you and you're ok with a little more blueness, decrease green until you're happy.

If you want true D65 white point, you have to use comfort view to filter out the blue, but then you lose your ability to use comfort view on a schedule. When you set comfort view to the setting just to the left of center, you'll get x=.313 y=.335, which is pretty much dead on (the slight green shift is pretty tiny). I did not yet measure the individual RGB illuminant values.

You will notice that these color values feel incredibly red or yellow compared to stock. You might not even like them. But they are technically more "white" from an sRGB standpoint. When I hold the phone up to my calibrated monitor, even the corrected version above looks incredibly blue. The comfort mode version looks about right. It will make your photos look more natural though. I have a photo of a sandwich that got more delicious after making these changes. Seriously, mouth watering.

For reference, the stock color profiles look like this:
normal: x=.276, y=.288
movies: x=.287, y=.300
photos: x=.287, y=.300
web: x=.286, y=.288

In all of them, the blue value is incredibly high. high blue will drive down both x and y coordinates. It looks to me like this panel is red-limited.

The color temperature was a bit unintuitive, but given the above red limitation, I think it simply removes green and you end up back where you started. Hence leaving it at full "cool".

So if you plan to take photos and want more accurate color when you do, try the above settings and compare the photos when you view on your phone to when you view on your computer monitor.


References: CIE chromaticity chart: D65 is 6500k on this chart. x and y coords are along the horizontal and vertical axes. You'll notice that x=.313, y=.329 cross at the 6500k point.

CIE1931_ledtuning.png


I've also attached some simple R, G, B, & W test images and a gradient.

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old_fart

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By default it is too warm and you're dialing the warmness back to neutral ? ? ? ? I think samsung defaults to warm also ( in what I've seen... )
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I think I want a little warm.
 
By default it is too warm and you're dialing the warmness back to neutral ? ? ? ? I think samsung defaults to warm also ( in what I've seen... )
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I think I want a little warm.

By default it is very BLUE. Blue is what most people consider "cool". Even with my adjustments, it still leans a bit cool/blue. I'm not sure this display will ever be able to look "warm" with the factory adjustments.
 

CHH2

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I dunno, using those settings and without activating the comfort view, it looked too warm.
 
I dunno, using those settings and without activating the comfort view, it looked too warm.

Don't trust your eyes after staring at a blue phone all day. Get a piece of white paper and sit the phone next to it. Compare that or a computer monitor. Also try using it this way for a couple days. Once you start to get used to it (or forget you changed it), switch back to "normal" and see what you think of that.
 

CHH2

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Don't trust your eyes after staring at a blue phone all day. Get a piece of white paper and sit the phone next to it. Compare that or a computer monitor. Also try using it this way for a couple days. Once you start to get used to it (or forget you changed it), switch back to "normal" and see what you think of that.

I stare at a calibrated computer monitor all day and paper all day. Sliding the blue all the way down definitely makes mine too warm.
 

liteon163

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I did like you said with Comfort Filter and sliding the overall color one notch to the left. Yes, compared to a piece of paper the display looks quite close to white. But when I start using apps, the color seems fairly off to me. I acknowledge this is ME, not the phone. I'll probably make a more concentrated effort to change over a few days.

I was wondering how closely we'd be able to get the screen to 6500 K because that's one area my old S7 really excelled in. Thanks for the tip!
 
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stuartmc

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Thanks for bringing this subject to my attention. For no apparent reason, I have been a little wary of playing with the color settings. Very glad that I did today. I'm using a calibrated monitor screen to match whites and colors and my optimum settings are way different than the OP's.

I bumped the color temp one click towards warm and then backed off only the blue slider about 25%. Bingo...it's spot on.
 

liteon163

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Thanks for bringing this subject to my attention. For no apparent reason, I have been a little wary of playing with the color settings. Very glad that I did today. I'm using a calibrated monitor screen to match whites and colors and my optimum settings are way different than the OP's.

I bumped the color temp one click towards warm and then backed off only the blue slider about 25%. Bingo...it's spot on.

I tried it your way and it ended up just about the same as the other way...
 

hachiroku

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thanks for this...using the recommended settings resulting in a green display for me.

i ended up leaving the cool/warm slider in the middle and moving the blue slider one click to the right of center. green one click from the right most. this gave me the most neutral balance of colors. muted but natural to my eyes.
 
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hemirunner426

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I was wondering what my eyes were seeing. Something in the back of my head was telling me the display was blue.

Comfort view seems to offer the best balanced color on my screen.
Hopefully LG will allow more color control in software.

Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk
 

CHH2

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I was wondering what my eyes were seeing. Something in the back of my head was telling me the display was blue.

Comfort view seems to offer the best balanced color on my screen.
Hopefully LG will allow more color control in software.

Sent from my LG-H932 using Tapatalk

There is. There's an entire menu devoted to tweaking the color of the screen to your liking.
 

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Thanks for bringing this subject to my attention. For no apparent reason, I have been a little wary of playing with the color settings. Very glad that I did today. I'm using a calibrated monitor screen to match whites and colors and my optimum settings are way different than the OP's.

I bumped the color temp one click towards warm and then backed off only the blue slider about 25%. Bingo...it's spot on.

Can you take a screenshot of your sliders? It's been a long day and my brain can't comprehend which way you moved the color temp slider and whether you meant set the blue slider to 25% or take off 25%.
 

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    First off, D65 is impossible on this phone without using Comfort View.

    The best I was able to achieve (using a Konica Minolta CS-200 chroma meter, brightness at 50%, auto deselected) was x=.285, y=.325 (D65 is x=.313, y=.329), so I'm a little on the blue side. Here are the settings I used:

    Screen Color:
    Select Custom and hit the gear icon
    Color Temperature: Cooler (slider all the way to the left).
    RGB Levels:
    Red: maximum
    Green: maximum
    Blue: MINimum
    Result: x=.285, y=.325
    If this is too green for you and you're ok with a little more blueness, decrease green until you're happy.

    If you want true D65 white point, you have to use comfort view to filter out the blue, but then you lose your ability to use comfort view on a schedule. When you set comfort view to the setting just to the left of center, you'll get x=.313 y=.335, which is pretty much dead on (the slight green shift is pretty tiny). I did not yet measure the individual RGB illuminant values.

    You will notice that these color values feel incredibly red or yellow compared to stock. You might not even like them. But they are technically more "white" from an sRGB standpoint. When I hold the phone up to my calibrated monitor, even the corrected version above looks incredibly blue. The comfort mode version looks about right. It will make your photos look more natural though. I have a photo of a sandwich that got more delicious after making these changes. Seriously, mouth watering.

    For reference, the stock color profiles look like this:
    normal: x=.276, y=.288
    movies: x=.287, y=.300
    photos: x=.287, y=.300
    web: x=.286, y=.288

    In all of them, the blue value is incredibly high. high blue will drive down both x and y coordinates. It looks to me like this panel is red-limited.

    The color temperature was a bit unintuitive, but given the above red limitation, I think it simply removes green and you end up back where you started. Hence leaving it at full "cool".

    So if you plan to take photos and want more accurate color when you do, try the above settings and compare the photos when you view on your phone to when you view on your computer monitor.


    References: CIE chromaticity chart: D65 is 6500k on this chart. x and y coords are along the horizontal and vertical axes. You'll notice that x=.313, y=.329 cross at the 6500k point.

    CIE1931_ledtuning.png


    I've also attached some simple R, G, B, & W test images and a gradient.

    y8s
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    didnt know about the blue tint in an angle...anyone wanna help me reduce this?

    No.
    I don't look at my phone sideways. I tend to look directly at my phone when I'm reading emails, texts. The only people bothered by the sideways blue tint are nosy people. ;)
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    Measured my V30+ with an i1 d3. Web is closest to srgb, photo is most saturated. Custom colour is strange the individual sliders don't affect white balance linearly or at all depending on setting. The cooler to warmer does though.

    The white balance also seems to affect 50 to 100% grey mostly. 0 to 40% is very close to D65. Gamma is by default excellent.

    Web plus comfort view 3 clicks is the best for accurate colour but not ideal wb. its slightly cool.

    Every display or batch is most probably different.
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    Has anyone found the best settings for the display?

    Read the last sentence of the post above yours. ?