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(Louise Barbetti) THE
ORIGINAL G\'PSGOLOX POLE

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WAS TAKEN FROM ITS
SITE IN MISK\'USA.

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(Per Kaks) THE THEN DIRECTOR
WANTED TO HAVE A TOTEM POLE

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BECAUSE MANY OF THE
OTHER MUSEUMS IN EUROPE

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HAD TOTEM POLES.

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(Karin Westward) IT
BECAME STATE PROPERTY,

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ACCORDING TO SWEDISH LAW.

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(Native chanting)

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(Louise) WE\'VE TRACED
A LOT OF OUR ARTIFACTS

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TO MUSEUMS ALL OVER.

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THAT WAS THE BEGINNING
OF LOOKING FOR THE POLE.

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ONCE IT WAS TRACED TO
SWEDEN, THERE WAS A LOT

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OF OUR PEOPLE THAT FELT
THAT IT\'LL NEVER HAPPEN.

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IT\'S TOO MONUMENTAL A TASK.

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BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WENT
OVER TO SEE THE POLE

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WERE SO MOVED BY THE POLE

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THAT THEY PROMISED
THAT ONE DAY, SOMEHOW,

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YOU WILL GO HOME.

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AND THEY TOLD
THAT TO THE POLE.

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(Narrator) THIS TOTEM POLE
IS THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

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FOR THE HAISLA AND
XANAKSIYALA PEOPLE,

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IT REPRESENTS A VITAL LINK
TO THEIR ANCESTRAL HERITAGE.

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A LINK THAT WAS
SEVERED IN 1929.

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IT NOW STANDS AS
THE CENTERPIECE

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OF THE FOLKENS
MUSEUM ETNOGRAFISKA

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IN STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN.

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(♪)

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THIS COMMUNITY, IN
NORTH WESTERN CANADA

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IS THE HOME THE G\'PSGOLOX
POLE WOULD RETURN TO.

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(♪)

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GATHERED TOGETHER
IN ONE SPIRIT,

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THE PEOPLE OF KITAMAAT VILLAGE
CALL THEMSELVES HAISLA.

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BUT THIS COMMUNITY IS AN
AMALGAMATION OF TWO PEOPLES -

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THE HAISLA AND
THE XANAKSIYALA,

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THE PEOPLE OF THE
KITLOPE TERRITORY.

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DEVASTATED BY
EUROPEAN DISEASES,

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THEY WERE ALMOST
COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED.

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IN 1947, XANAKSIYALA
SURVIVORS JOURNEYED NORTH,

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TO JOIN WITH THE PEOPLE OF
THE KITAMAAT TERRITORY,

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THUS FORMING
THE HAISLA NATION.

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(Speaks in Native dialect)

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(Cecil Paul) MOTHER EARTH, WE
THANK YOU FOR A GREAT GIFT.

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WE ARE CLEANSING YOU,
SO THAT YOU\'LL BE BOTH PURE

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IN THE JOURNEY THAT YOU WILL
GO IN THE FAR-DISTANT LAND.

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TO ME, THAT TOTEM
POLE IS OUR CULTURE.

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WE\'RE TRYING TO HANG ON TO
SOMETHING WE ARE LOSING FAST.

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XANAKSIYALA ELDER,
CECIL PAUL,

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ALWAYS REMEMBERED THE SADNESS
IN HIS GRANDMOTHER\'S VOICE

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AS SHE TOLD THE
STORY OF THE POLE.

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A RELENTLESS SEARCH EVENTUALLY
LED HIM TO A PHOTOGRAPH

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OF THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE IN
AN ANTHROPOLOGY BOOK.

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(drumming)

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COMMUNITY LEADER,
LOUISE BARBETTI,

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SINGS FOR THE POLE
IN SWEDEN.

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(♪)

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IT ONCE STOOD AT MISK\'USA,

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IN THE TRADITIONAL
HOMELAND OF THE XANAKSIYALA,

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THE KITLOPE VALLEY.

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(♪)

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THIS IS THE OLD VILLAGE
SITE OF MISK\'USA.

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THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE WAS CARVED
AND RAISED HERE IN 1872.

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(Louisa Smith) THERE\'S
A GRAVESITE BACK HERE.

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THE OLD VILLAGE WAS HERE.

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THERE WAS VILLAGERS
ALL UP AND DOWN,

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RIGHT UP TO THE LAKE.

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LOUISA SMITH IS A DIRECT
DESCENDENT OF G\'PSGOLOX,

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THE XANAKSIYALA EAGLE CHIEF

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WHO COMMISSIONED
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

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AND THEN THERE WAS LANDSLIDES
- I THINK THERE WERE THREE

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LANDSLIDES THAT
KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE,

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SO THEY KEPT - EVERY TIME
THERE WAS A LANDSLIDE,

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THEY MOVED IT DOWN.

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AND THE LAST
LANDSLIDE WAS HERE.

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SO FROM HERE, THEY MOVED
TO THE PRESENT KEMANO SITE.

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LOUISA\'S ANCESTORS WERE
AMONG THOSE WHO MADE THE MOVE.

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(Louisa) AND AS WE
GREW UP IN KEMANO,

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AFTER THE DAY\'S
WORK IS DONE,

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WE WOULD GATHER IN OUR
LITTLE GRANDMOTHER\'S HOUSE.

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AND VERY FAINTLY I COULD
REMEMBER HER STORIES

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ABOUT THE OLD TOTEM POLE.

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HOW IT WAS TAKEN AGAINST
THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE,

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THE FAMILY OF G\'PSGOLOX.

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IN MISK\'USA, INFLUENZA,
TUBERCULOSIS AND SMALLPOX

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DECIMATED THE XANAKSIYALA.

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CHIEF G\'PSGOLOX LOST
MOST OF HIS FAMILY.

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(Louisa) AND HE WENT
INTO THE FOREST.

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AND HE WAS WALKING AIMLESSLY,
HE WAS IN SO MUCH GRIEF.

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AND HE CAME UPON
A LITTLE MAN.

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AND THE MAN ASKED HIM
WHY HE WAS SO SAD.

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WHAT CAUSED SO
MUCH OF HIS SORROW?

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AND HE TOLD HIM THAT
HIS FAMILY DIED,

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HIS CHILDREN, WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF HIS WIFE.

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AND HE DIDN\'T KNOW IT AT
THE TIME, BUT THE PERSON

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THAT HE ENCOUNTERED
WAS A MYTHICAL BEING.

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AND HIS NAME IS TSOODA.

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AND TSOODA TOLD
HIM TO GO BACK

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TO WHERE HE BURIED HIS
FAMILY AND AT THAT TIME,

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THE BURIAL WAS ON
TOP OF THE TREES.

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AND HE WAS GIVEN A
CRYSTAL AND WAS TOLD,

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\"WHEN YOU GO AT THE
BASE OF THE TREE,

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AND BEFORE YOU CALL
DOWN YOUR FAMILY,

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YOU TAKE A BITE OFF
OF THIS CRYSTAL\".

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AND HE DID AS HE
WAS INSTRUCTED.

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HE WENT BACK.

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AND HE TOOK A BITE
OFF OF THE CRYSTAL.

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AND HE CALLED TO HIS
FAMILY TO WAKE UP,

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\"COME DOWN FROM
WHERE YOU\'RE LAYING\".

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AND HE WAS SURPRISED
WHEN THEY ALL SAT UP

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AND THEY WERE COMING
DOWN FROM THE TREETOP.

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AND AMONG HIS FAMILY

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WAS THIS LITTLE MAN THAT HE
ENCOUNTERED IN THE FOREST.

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AND AS A RESULT OF THAT
ENCOUNTER, G\'PSGOLOX HIRED

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TWO RAVEN CHIEFS TO CARVE OUT
THE MYTHICAL BEING, TSOODA.

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THE G\'PSGOLOX\'S POLE
IS A MORTUARY POLE.

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COMMISSIONED BY CHIEF
G\'PSGOLOX TO COMMEMORATE

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BOTH HIS FAMILY AND THE
ENCOUNTER WITH TSOODA.

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(Dan Paul) THAT POLE
WAS NOT A DECORATION.

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IT WAS ON TOP OF A GRAVE.

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WE GOT A NAME FOR THAT.

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DAN PAUL HOLDS THE HEREDITARY
TITLE OF G\'PSGOLOX.

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HE IS CONSIDERED THE OWNER
OF THE POLE IN SWEDEN.

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IN OUR LANGUAGE, THEY CALL THAT
(speaks in Native dialect).

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THE THING SHOULD NEVER
BE TAKEN OUT IF IT FALLS.

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IF IT FALLS
YOU DON\'T LIFT IT.

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YOU LET IT GO BACK
TO MOTHER EARTH.

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(Louisa) IT\'S A REALLY
EMOTIONAL TIME FOR ALL OF US.

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IN ORDER FOR OUR ANCESTORS
TO REST PEACEFULLY,

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YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING
MUST BE IN PLACE.

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AND SINCE THIS, THE POLE
WAS A MORTUARY POLE

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YOU CAN USE YOUR
OWN IMAGINATION

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AND FEEL WHAT THE XANAKSIYALA
AND THE HAISLA PEOPLE FELT

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WITH THE POLE BEING MISSING.

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THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE WOULD
HAVE DISINTEGRATED LONG AGO

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AND RETURNED TO THE EARTH.

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THAT\'S THE WAY IT\'S SUPPOSED
TO BE WITH TOTEM POLES.

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BUT THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE
NEVER HAD THAT CHANCE.

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(♪)

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NIN 1929, THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE WAS
GIVEN TO THE PEOPLE OF SWEDEN

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BY OLOF HANSON, THE
ROYAL SWEDISH CONSUL

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STATIONED IN PRINCE RUPERT,
BRITISH COLUMBIA.

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INDIAN TOTEM POLES WERE ALL THE
RAGE IN MUSEUMS ACROSS EUROPE,

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AND HANSON
CONSIDERED THE G\'PSGOLOX
POLE ABANDONED AT MISK\'USA.

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IN CONSORT WITH IVOR FOUGNER,
THE LOCAL INDIAN AGENT,

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IT WAS CUT DOWN AT THE BASE
AND SHIPPED TO STOCKHOLM,

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WHERE IT REMAINS
TO THIS DAY.

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(Per Kaks) SO THE STORY SAYS,
TELLS US THAT THERE WERE

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LONG NEGOTIATIONS
WITH THE TRIBE.

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AND THERE WAS ONE OLD WOMAN
WHO WAS AGAINST EVERYTHING.

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SHE KNEW THE VALUE
OF IT, I THINK,

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WHILE THE OTHERS PROBABLY
WERE NEEDING MONEY.

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I MEAN, THAT WAS
THE SITUATION.

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I THINK THAT WAS THE SITUATION
IN WHICH THEY NEGOTIATED.

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THAT THEY OFFERED MONEY, THE
SWEDISH CONSUL OFFERED MONEY

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AND THIS GROUP
PROBABLY NEEDED MONEY.

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WE DON\'T KNOW WHATEVER KIND
OF NEGOTIATIONS THEY HAD.

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I CAN SUSPECT THERE WERE A LOT
OF UGLY DETAILS IN THAT DEAL.

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SO THE ONLY PAPER
WE HAVE IS THAT,

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IS THE EXPORT PERMISSION
BY THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT.

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WEST FRASER MILLS, A TIMBER
COMPANY ACTIVE IN THE AREA,

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DONATED THESE LOGS

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IN SUPPORT OF THE REPATRIATION
OF THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

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A PROCESS THAT
BEGAN IN 1991,

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FOLLOWING THE DISCOVERY
OF ITS WHEREABOUTS.

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(Louisa) IT WAS AS IF OUR
FEET KNEW WHERE TO TAKE US.

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GOING AROUND THE
CORRIDOR, THE HALLWAY

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AND GOING UP A STAIRWAY
AND THEN TURNING UP.

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AND THERE WAS THE OLD
POLE STANDING THERE.

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IT WAS...

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LIKE TWO
SPIRITS CONNECTING.

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AND I CRIED AND
CRIED AND CRIED,

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THINKING IT\'S BEEN
SUCH A LONG TIME.

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SUCH A LONG,
LONG TIME.

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I\'VE BEEN WAITING AND
WAITING AND WAITING,

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LOOKING OUT FOR PEOPLE TO
COME AND TAKE IT HOME.

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(Gerald Amos) WHEN I WAS
STANDING IN FRONT OF THAT POLE,

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I REALIZED AT THAT POINT, THAT
THIS WAS MAYBE ONE OF THE

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SYMBOLS THAT WE COULD, IF
WE COULD REPATRIATE IT,

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THAT MIGHT BEGIN TO
HEAL THE COMMUNITY.

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AND LORD KNOWS, THERE\'S
A LOT OF HEALING TO DO.

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GERALD AND LOUISA RECLAIMED
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

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(Gerald) IN OUR VIEW, IT WAS
TAKEN WITHOUT PROPER CONSENT.

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WE FEEL IN A LARGE PART THAT
IT WAS, IN FACT, STOLEN.

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(Louisa) MY GRANDMOTHER
AND MY MOTHER HAVE TOLD ME

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AND HAVE MENTIONED TO ALL
MY BROTHERS AND MY SISTERS

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ABOUT THIS POLE.

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AND HOW IT WAS TAKEN
AGAINST THEIR WILL.

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ON BEHALF OF THEIR PEOPLE,

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LOUISA AND GERALD BEGAN
NEGOTIATIONS WITH PER KAKS,

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THE MUSEUM DIRECTOR
AT THE TIME.

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(Per Kaks) THEY SAID, \"WE
WANT TO HAVE THE POLE BACK\".

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WHAT COULD I SAY? I CAN\'T
SAY NEITHER YES OR NO

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BECAUSE I HAVEN\'T GOT
THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

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AS THIS IS NOW
NATIONAL PROPERTY,

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GOVERNMENT\'S PROPERTY, I
HAVE TO ASK FOR PERMISSION.

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IF I FIND THAT YOUR
CLAIM IS ACCEPTABLE -

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BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE
DIDN\'T HAVE ANY PAPERS.

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THEY COULDN\'T
PROVE, I MEAN,

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SAYING \"I AM THE PROPER
OWNER OF THE TOTEM POLE\".

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SO WE STARTED A LONG, LONG
PERIOD OF DISCUSSIONS.

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THE DISCUSSIONS
LASTED THREE YEARS.

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(Per) THROUGH THE DISCUSSIONS
WE - AND I, I MUST SAY,

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FOR MYSELF, I HAD TO ACCEPT
THEIR WAY OF REASONING.

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THAT IT\'S NOT A MATTER OF
LEGAL, A LEGAL DISCUSSION,

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IT\'S MORE A MATTER OF AN
ETHICAL DISCUSSION.

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WHO HAS THE PROPER
RIGHT TO IT?

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WHO HAS THE... LET\'S SAY,
BETTER USE OF IT,

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IF I CAN USE A
WORD LIKE THAT

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AND FOR WHOM DOES THIS
POLE MEAN SOMETHING?

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PER KAKS RECOMMENDED TO
THE SWEDISH GOVERNMENT

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THAT THE POLE BE RETURNED.

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THUS ENCOURAGED, A DELEGATION
RETURNED TO STOCKHOLM IN 1994

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TO PRESS FOR A DECISION.

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(Gerald) WE TOOK A CHANCE.

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WE SAID, \"WELL, WHY DON\'T
WE OFFER A REPLICA?

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WHY DON\'T WE PUT ON
THE TABLE A REPLICA?\"

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AT THE TIME OF THE
NEGOTIATIONS, GERALD AMOS

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WAS CHIEF COUNSELOR
FOR KITAMAAT VILLAGE.

-08:-43:00.-625 --> -08:-42:-59.-625
AND THEY ACCEPTED THAT.

-08:-42:-59.-208 --> -08:-42:-57.-488
I THINK THAT\'S REALLY
WHAT TIPPED THE SCALE.

-08:-42:-56.-625 --> -08:-42:-54.-985
BUT STILL SOME MUSEUM
PERSONNEL RESISTED.

-08:-42:-52.000 --> -08:-42:-50.-800
DURING A BREAK
IN NEGOTIATIONS,

-08:-42:-49.-709 --> -08:-42:-47.-428
THE HAISLA WERE TAKEN TO SEE
A SWEDISH NATIONAL TREASURE,

-08:-42:-45.-458 --> -08:-42:-44.-018
THE VASSA, A WAR SHIP
DATING TO 1628

-08:-42:-41.-750 --> -08:-42:-39.-750
THAT HAD SUNK IN THE HARBOUR
ON ITS MAIDEN VOYAGE.

-08:-42:-38.-500 --> -08:-42:-36.-460
THEN WAS RECLAIMED INTACT
FROM THE SEA BED IN 1961.

-08:-42:-32.-709 --> -08:-42:-31.-709
BUILT AROUND THE SHIP,

-08:-42:-31.-001 --> -08:-42:-29.-161
THE VASSA MUSEUM IS NOW
THE PRIDE OF STOCKHOLM.

-08:-42:-27.-834 --> -08:-42:-25.-394
(Gerald) SO THESE PEOPLE WERE
SHOWING OFF THEIR HISTORY TO US.

-08:-42:-23.-001 --> -08:-42:-21.-041
AND YOU HAD A FELLOW THERE
WHO ASKED THE QUESTION,

-08:-42:-19.-001 --> -08:-42:-17.-001
\"I DON\'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU
WANT THIS OLD ONE BACK.

-08:-42:-16.-166 --> -08:-42:-14.-446
WHY DON\'T YOU JUST BUILD
YOURSELF A NEW ONE?

-08:-42:-13.-250 --> -08:-42:-11.-250
WOULDN\'T IT BE BETTER IF
YOUR PEOPLE HAVE A NEW ONE

-08:-42:-10.-709 --> -08:-42:-08.-949
RATHER THAN AN OLD ONE
THAT\'S FALLING APART?\"

-08:-42:-07.-917 --> -08:-42:-06.-077
I ASKED HIM, \"LET ME POSE
THIS QUESTION TO YOU.

-08:-42:-04.-001 --> -08:-42:-01.-961
HOW DO YOU THINK YOUR PEOPLE
WOULD FEEL IF TOMORROW,

-08:-42:00.-792 --> -08:-41:-58.-472
WHEN WE LEFT, SOMEHOW WE WERE
ABLE TO SPIRIT AWAY THE VASSA

-08:-41:-56.000 --> -08:-41:-53.-520
AND BROUGHT IT BACK TO KITAMAAT
AND WE BUILT A MUSEUM ROUND IT.

-08:-41:-52.-001 --> -08:-41:-49.-641
AND WE KEPT IT AND SAID, \"IT\'S
OURS. SOMEBODY GAVE IT TO US.

-08:-41:-47.-292 --> -08:-41:-45.-492
AND WHY DON\'T YOU BUILD
YOURSELVES A NEW ONE?\"

-08:-41:-42.-959 --> -08:-41:-40.-879
THE MINISTER OF CULTURE
ANNOUNCED THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE

-08:-41:-38.-917 --> -08:-41:-37.-917
WOULD BE RETURNED.

-08:-41:-37.-750 --> -08:-41:-35.-790
AND SHE PRESENTED IT AS
A GIFT TO THE DELEGATION,

-08:-41:-34.-001 --> -08:-41:-32.-921
BUT WITH A STRING ATTACHED.

-08:-41:-31.-208 --> -08:-41:-30.-208
THE MUSEUM\'S CONDITION;

-08:-41:-29.-792 --> -08:-41:-27.-992
THE POLE WOULD NOT RETURN
TO KITAMAAT VILLAGE

-08:-41:-27.-083 --> -08:-41:-25.-403
WITHOUT A PROTECTIVE
FACILITY TO HOUSE IT.

-08:-41:-21.-792 --> -08:-41:-20.-552
(Per) I WANTED TO GIVE IT BACK.

-08:-41:-18.-667 --> -08:-41:-17.-667
AND WE HAD NO
CONDITIONS.

-08:-41:-16.-834 --> -08:-41:-15.-834
THE ONLY
CONDITION WE HAD,

-08:-41:-15.-083 --> -08:-41:-13.-283
AND I THINK IT\'S IMPORTANT
FOR ME TO SAY THAT,

-08:-41:-12.-667 --> -08:-41:-11.-187
BECAUSE I\'VE HEARD
OTHER THINGS SAID -

-08:-41:-09.-500 --> -08:-41:-07.-420
WE, HAVING... HAVING KEPT
THE POLE FOR SO MANY YEARS,

-08:-41:-03.-500 --> -08:-41:-01.-260
AND TRIED TO MAKE IT SURVIVE -
IT\'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US

-08:-40:-58.-375 --> -08:-40:-56.-975
THAT WE COULD,
TOGETHER, BOTH OF US,

-08:-40:-53.-875 --> -08:-40:-52.-195
LOOK UPON THIS POLE AS A
KIND OF... WELL...

-08:-40:-49.-083 --> -08:-40:-48.-083
PROPERTY OF MANKIND.

-08:-40:-46.-125 --> -08:-40:-45.-125
I WOULD BE VERY UNHAPPY

-08:-40:-44.-667 --> -08:-40:-42.-547
IF THIS POLE IS PUT BACK
ACCORDING TO YOUR TRADITIONS.

-08:-40:-40.-083 --> -08:-40:-38.-363
BECAUSE IT WILL BE
DESTROYED IN HALF A YEAR.

-08:-40:-37.-001 --> -08:-40:-35.-961
IT\'S SO DRY
AND SO FRAGILE.

-08:-40:-35.-166 --> -08:-40:-33.-046
(Louise) AND IT WAS SUCH AN
AWFUL FEELING TO KNOW THAT

-08:-40:-30.-625 --> -08:-40:-28.-585
HOW DARE THEY MAKE CONDITIONS
OF RETURNING THE POLE.

-08:-40:-25.-333 --> -08:-40:-24.-333
THE POLE IS OURS.

-08:-40:-19.-875 --> -08:-40:-16.-955
(Henry Robertson) HERE\'S
THE PICTURE OF THIS. IT
WAS CUT DOWN FROM KITLOPE.

-08:-40:-12.-001 --> -08:-40:-10.-121
(Gil Cardinal) DID THE
MUSEUM SEND YOU ALL THIS?

-08:-40:-08.-834 --> -08:-40:-07.-834
(Henry) YEAH.
THE FOLKENS.

-08:-40:-03.-458 --> -08:-40:-02.-378
THE MEASUREMENT
OF THE EYES,

-08:-40:00.-001 --> -08:-39:-58.-681
THE MOUTH, THE
NOSTRILS, THE FEET.

-08:-39:-55.-125 --> -08:-39:-53.-485
(Gil) ARE YOU SUPPOSED
TO FOLLOW ALL THAT?

-08:-39:-51.-333 --> -08:-39:-50.-333
MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THAT?

-08:-39:-49.-166 --> -08:-39:-47.-326
(Henry) YEAH. I GUESS THEY
WANT IT TO BE EXACT.

-08:-39:-44.-709 --> -08:-39:-43.-309
(Gil) SO YOU\'VE
NEVER SEEN THE POLE.

-08:-39:-41.-583 --> -08:-39:-40.-583
(Henry) NO.

-08:-39:-40.-417 --> -08:-39:-38.-217
FROM THE DIAGRAMS, THESE
CARVERS WILL MAKE EXACT COPIES

-08:-39:-36.-792 --> -08:-39:-35.-792
OF THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

-08:-39:-35.-001 --> -08:-39:-33.-321
ONE TO BECOME A REPLACEMENT
FOR THE MUSEUM,

-08:-39:-32.-166 --> -08:-39:-30.-606
ANOTHER TO STAND
ONCE AGAIN AT MISK\'USA.

-08:-39:-15.-750 --> -08:-39:-14.-390
HENRY ROBERTSON IS
A MASTER CARVER.

-08:-39:-11.-542 --> -08:-39:-10.-102
HE\'S CONNECTED TO
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE

-08:-39:-08.-583 --> -08:-39:-07.-583
THROUGH HIS GRANDFATHER,

-08:-39:-06.-917 --> -08:-39:-05.-637
THE CARVER OF THE
ORIGINAL POLE.

-08:-39:-02.-001 --> -08:-39:00.-761
NEPHEWS DEREK
AND BARRY WILSON,

-08:-38:-59.-083 --> -08:-38:-57.-283
THEMSELVES ACCOMPLISHED
CARVERS AND JEWELERS,

-08:-38:-56.-083 --> -08:-38:-54.-283
ASSIST HENRY IN THE
LABOUR-INTENSIVE PROCESS.

-08:-38:-50.-667 --> -08:-38:-48.-987
TRICIA ROBERTSON HAS
TAKEN TIME OFF SCHOOL

-08:-38:-47.-625 --> -08:-38:-46.-065
TO WORK WITH HER
GRANDFATHER AND UNCLES.

-08:-38:-30.-208 --> -08:-38:-28.-408
WORK BEGINS ON THE
MUSEUM\'S REPLACEMENT POLE.

-08:-38:-25.-542 --> -08:-38:-23.-982
FOR THE HAISLA, THE
INTENT OF THE OFFER

-08:-38:-23.-001 --> -08:-38:-21.-401
WAS MORE THAN JUST A
NEGOTIATING TACTIC.

-08:-38:-17.-333 --> -08:-38:-15.-013
(Gerald) WE SAID TO OURSELVES,
\"WE DON\'T WANT TO SIMPLY RIP

-08:-38:-13.-667 --> -08:-38:-12.-107
THE POLE AWAY AND
LEAVE A VACANT SPACE\".

-08:-38:-10.-001 --> -08:-38:-07.-681
THAT WOULD BE DOING BASICALLY
THE SAME THING TO THEM AS WAS

-08:-38:-04.-001 --> -08:-38:-01.-881
DONE TO OUR PEOPLE, THOUGH IN
DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

-08:-38:00.-750 --> -08:-37:-58.-830
WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE AGREED
TO EXCHANGE THE POLE.

-08:-37:-56.-083 --> -08:-37:-54.-243
BUT OUR CHIEF, OUR CHIEFS
AND THE CHIEF LADIES,

-08:-37:-50.-875 --> -08:-37:-49.-195
DECIDED THAT, WELL,
A PROMISE IS A PROMISE.

-08:-37:-47.-375 --> -08:-37:-45.-895
AND OUT OF THE
GOODNESS OF OUR HEARTS,

-08:-37:-44.-375 --> -08:-37:-43.-135
LET\'S FIGHT TO GET
A REPLACEMENT

-08:-37:-41.-250 --> -08:-37:-39.-250
AND GIVE IT TO THE MUSEUM
AS A TOKEN OF FRIENDSHIP.

-08:-37:-33.-917 --> -08:-37:-32.-917
PEOPLE WERE ANGRY,

-08:-37:-32.-001 --> -08:-37:-30.-281
BUT PEOPLE BEGAN TO SEE
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF,

-08:-37:-25.-834 --> -08:-37:-23.-834
IF WE HAD ALLOWED MOTHER
NATURE TO TAKE ITS COURSE,

-08:-37:-21.-875 --> -08:-37:-20.-875
AS IS OUR TRADITION,

-08:-37:-20.-001 --> -08:-37:-18.-121
WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD
THAT OLD POLE TO THIS DAY.

-08:-37:-15.-166 --> -08:-37:-13.-846
IT\'S A DILEMMA
FOR THE COMMUNITY.

-08:-37:-12.-208 --> -08:-37:-10.-808
THOUGH THE G\'PSGOLOX
POLE WAS TAKEN,

-08:-37:-09.-458 --> -08:-37:-08.-418
IT WAS ALSO TAKEN CARE OF.

-08:-37:-06.-333 --> -08:-37:-05.-333
(♪)

-08:-36:-56.-083 --> -08:-36:-54.-643
IN THIS COASTAL
RAIN FOREST CLIMATE,

-08:-36:-53.-041 --> -08:-36:-51.-121
TOTEM POLES SELDOM LASTED
LONGER THAN 100 YEARS.

-08:-36:-49.-125 --> -08:-36:-47.-365
USUALLY FALLING FROM
DECAY IN ABOUT 60 YEARS.

-08:-36:-44.-041 --> -08:-36:-43.-041
(♪)

-08:-36:-38.-001 --> -08:-36:-36.-681
TOTEM POLES
COMMEMORATE ANCESTRY,

-08:-36:-34.-458 --> -08:-36:-33.-098
LINKING THE PAST
WITH THE PRESENT,

-08:-36:-32.-001 --> -08:-36:-29.-601
THE POLE\'S FIGURES EMBLEMATIC
OF TRIBAL AND FAMILY IDENTITY.

-08:-36:-25.-292 --> -08:-36:-24.-052
THEY\'RE CREATED
TO TELL STORIES,

-08:-36:-22.-750 --> -08:-36:-21.-750
MARK HISTORICAL EVENTS

-08:-36:-20.-750 --> -08:-36:-19.-150
OR AS IN THE CASE OF
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE,

-08:-36:-17.-709 --> -08:-36:-16.-709
TO COMMEMORATE A FAMILY

-08:-36:-16.-041 --> -08:-36:-14.-041
AND RECORD AN ENCOUNTER
WITH A SUPERNATURAL BEING.

-08:-36:-10.-792 --> -08:-36:-09.-792
(sander noises)

-08:-35:-31.-125 --> -08:-35:-29.-405
(Gerald) THERE\'S STILL
159 CENTIMETERS HERE.

-08:-35:-28.-083 --> -08:-35:-26.-603
YOU DIDN\'T PUT A
MEASUREMENT IN THERE.

-08:-35:-24.-583 --> -08:-35:-23.-583
GOT TO SEND IT BACK!

-08:-35:-21.-792 --> -08:-35:-21.-417
YEAH!

-08:-35:-21.-001 --> -08:-35:-19.-721
SO THE ONLY THING
TO DO, I GUESS,

-08:-35:-19.-001 --> -08:-35:-17.-721
TO MEASURE FROM
THE TOP DOWN, EH?

-08:-35:-17.-583 --> -08:-35:-15.-302
THEN YOU\'LL HAVE
THE PROPER DISTANCE
BETWEEN HERE AND HERE.

-08:-35:-14.-001 --> -08:-35:-11.-720
RATHER THAN LETTING THE SPIRIT
OF THE LOGS SPEAK TO THEM,

-08:-35:-10.-500 --> -08:-35:-09.-140
THE CARVERS MUST
GO BY THE NUMBERS

-08:-35:-08.-001 --> -08:-35:-06.-041
IN ORDER TO EXACTLY
REPLICATE THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

-08:-35:-01.-292 --> -08:-35:00.-052
AND THE ARM,
24 AND A HALF...

-08:-34:-57.-500 --> -08:-34:-56.-140
AND PROBABLY,
MAYBE IT\'S ANGLED IN.

-08:-34:-36.-292 --> -08:-34:-35.-092
THE RECREATION
OF THESE FIGURES

-08:-34:-33.000 --> -08:-34:-31.-440
LINKS THE CARVERS
BACK TO A TIME BEFORE

-08:-34:-30.-333 --> -08:-34:-28.-093
THE CULTURAL EXPRESSION OF
THEIR ANCESTORS WAS OUTLAWED.

-08:-34:-22.-333 --> -08:-34:-20.-533
EVERYTHING OUR PEOPLE
DID WAS CRIMINALIZED EH.

-08:-34:-18.-001 --> -08:-34:-16.-201
HUNTING, FISHING, DANCING,
SINGING AND CARVING

-08:-34:-12.-001 --> -08:-34:-10.-441
AND LANGUAGE WAS ALL
AGAINST THE LAW EH.

-08:-34:-07.-917 --> -08:-34:-06.-557
SO THE PREACHERS
AND THE GOVERNMENT

-08:-34:-05.-834 --> -08:-34:-04.-154
THREW EVERYTHING AWAY
AND BURNT EVERYTHING.

-08:-34:-03.-001 --> -08:-34:-01.-081
THAT\'S THE THING THAT
ALMOST DESTROYED OUR PEOPLE

-08:-33:-59.-583 --> -08:-33:-58.-103
IS THE LACK OF
CONNECTION TO OUR PAST.

-08:-33:-56.-750 --> -08:-33:-55.-190
WHEN THE THINGS WERE
TAKEN AWAY FROM US,

-08:-33:-54.000 --> -08:-33:-53.000
WE LOST THAT CONNECTION.

-08:-33:-40.-083 --> -08:-33:-39.-083
(♪)

-08:-32:-57.-625 --> -08:-32:-56.-025
(Louise) IN THE CHURCH\'S
EYES, OUR DANCES

-08:-32:-54.-917 --> -08:-32:-52.-997
AND OUR SONGS AND THE
MASKS AND THE PARAPHERNALIA

-08:-32:-50.-208 --> -08:-32:-49.-048
WERE ALL TO DO
WITH THE DEVIL.

-08:-32:-46.-542 --> -08:-32:-44.-742
AS A RESULT, OUR PEOPLE,
THEY WERE INTIMIDATED

-08:-32:-43.-208 --> -08:-32:-41.-728
INTO GETTING RID
OF WHATEVER THEY HAD.

-08:-32:-38.-750 --> -08:-32:-36.-430
NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU TALK
ABOUT IT, YOU CAN\'T EVER CHANGE

-08:-32:-34.-792 --> -08:-32:-32.-872
WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR PEOPLE.
BUT YOU CAN REBUILD.

-08:-32:-29.-001 --> -08:-32:-27.-121
AND THAT\'S WHY THE POLE,
TO ME, IS SO IMPORTANT.

-08:-32:-19.-001 --> -08:-32:-17.-841
HENRY, AM I DOING
IT TOO MUCH?

-08:-32:-16.-001 --> -08:-32:-15.-001
NO.

-08:-32:-14.-709 --> -08:-32:-14.-417
NO?

-08:-32:-13.-792 --> -08:-32:-12.-792
NO, WE\'LL SCREAM!

-08:-32:-11.-917 --> -08:-32:-10.-917
(laughter)

-08:-31:-59.-292 --> -08:-31:-58.-292
(Raven caws)

-08:-31:-54.-959 --> -08:-31:-53.-959
(distant chopping)

-08:-31:-39.-917 --> -08:-31:-38.-917
(♪)

-08:-30:-57.-166 --> -08:-30:-54.-806
ROUGHING OUT THE FIGURES IS
nAS FAR AS THE CARVERS WILL GO -

-08:-30:-50.-417 --> -08:-30:-49.-417
FOR NOW.

-08:-30:-49.-292 --> -08:-30:-46.-972
THE REMAINING WORK WILL BE DONE
AT THE MUSEUM IN STOCKHOLM.

-08:-30:-22.-125 --> -08:-30:-20.-005
THE CARVERS PICK UP THEIR
PACE WITH THE REPLICA POLE.

-08:-30:-17.-750 --> -08:-30:-16.-150
IT\'S SCHEDULED TO BE
RAISED IN MISK\'USA,

-08:-30:-14.-709 --> -08:-30:-13.-549
STANDING IN FOR
THE ORIGINAL,

-08:-30:-12.-583 --> -08:-30:-10.-263
ALLOWING THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE
TO REMAIN IN KITAMAAT VILLAGE.

-08:-30:-06.-001 --> -08:-30:-04.-921
BUT BEFORE THAT CAN HAPPEN,

-08:-30:-04.-458 --> -08:-30:-02.-298
THE COMMUNITY MUST CONTEND
WITH THE MUSEUM\'S CONDITION

-08:-30:-01.-001 --> -08:-29:-59.-281
OF HAVING A PROTECTED
FACILITY TO HOUSE IT.

-08:-29:-53.000 --> -08:-29:-52.000
(drums and chanting)

-08:-29:-40.-834 --> -08:-29:-38.-394
THE PROSPECT OF FINANCING THE
nMUSEUM IS AN ENORMOUS CHALLENGE

-08:-29:-35.-792 --> -08:-29:-34.-512
AND THE COMMUNITY
IS ON ITS OWN.

-08:-29:-32.-542 --> -08:-29:-30.-782
NEITHER THE SWEDISH NOR
CANADIAN GOVERNMENTS

-08:-29:-29.-001 --> -08:-29:-28.-001
HAVE OFFERED ASSISTANCE.

-08:-29:-27.-001 --> -08:-29:-25.-241
FOUNDATIONS AND PRIVATE
SOURCES ARE HELPING,

-08:-29:-23.-583 --> -08:-29:-21.-543
COVER THE IMMEDIATE COSTS
OF CARVING THE NEW POLES,

-08:-29:-20.-001 --> -08:-29:-17.-921
TRANSPORTING THE REPLACEMENT
AND RAISING THE REPLICA.

-08:-29:-15.-750 --> -08:-29:-14.-390
BUT THE PROJECT
BUDGET OF $300,000

-08:-29:-12.-875 --> -08:-29:-11.-875
HAS YET TO BE REALIZED.

-08:-29:-11.-001 --> -08:-29:-08.-720
AND SO THE COMMUNITY RALLIES,
WITH FUNDRAISERS LIKE THIS.

-08:-29:-06.-292 --> -08:-29:-05.-292
AND EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS.

-08:-29:-03.-001 --> -08:-29:-02.-001
(drums and chanting)

-08:-28:-51.-917 --> -08:-28:-49.-757
LOUISA\'S WORK TOWARDS THE
RETURN OF THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE

-08:-28:-48.-001 --> -08:-28:-45.-561
IS SPONSORED
BY A VANCOUVER-BASED
ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION,

-08:-28:-43.-208 --> -08:-28:-42.-208
ECOTRUST CANADA.

-08:-28:-41.-375 --> -08:-28:-39.-255
IT\'S A RELATIONSHIP THAT
EVOLVED FROM ECOTRUST\'S ROLE

-08:-28:-38.-001 --> -08:-28:-36.-001
IN HELPING THE HAISLA
PRESERVE THE KITLOPE VALLEY.

-08:-28:-32.-500 --> -08:-28:-30.-860
(Louisa) THE OTHER
PRESSING ITEM RIGHT NOW

-08:-28:-29.-583 --> -08:-28:-27.-863
IS TO GET THE POLE FROM
VANCOUVER TO SWEDEN.

-08:-28:-23.-834 --> -08:-28:-21.-674
I\'M TOLD THAT IT\'S MUCH
CHEAPER BY FREIGHT THAN BY AIR.

-08:-28:-15.-500 --> -08:-28:-13.-940
ALL WE WANTED WAS
THE POLE TO COME HOME.

-08:-28:-11.-709 --> -08:-28:-10.-589
BUT AS THE PROJECT UNFOLDED,

-08:-28:-08.-500 --> -08:-28:-07.-180
MANY THINGS CAME
INTO THE PICTURE.

-08:-28:-05.-083 --> -08:-28:-03.-683
IT JUST OPENED UP
TO A HUGE PROJECT.

-08:-28:-01.-001 --> -08:-27:-59.-801
SOMETIMES...
VERY OVERWHELMING.

-08:-27:-56.-250 --> -08:-27:-54.-650
BECAUSE FINANCES ARE
ALWAYS THE OBSTACLE.

-08:-27:-52.-001 --> -08:-27:-51.-001
DON\'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.

-08:-27:-48.-333 --> -08:-27:-47.-333
YEAH.

-08:-27:-46.-500 --> -08:-27:-45.-500
(sighs)

-08:-27:-40.-542 --> -08:-27:-39.-542
(♪)

-08:-26:-55.-375 --> -08:-26:-54.-015
(Henry) WHEN WE
FIRST STARTED THIS,

-08:-26:-52.-001 --> -08:-26:-50.-841
WHEN WE FIRST
TALKED ABOUT IT,

-08:-26:-48.-083 --> -08:-26:-45.-763
THEY SEND... SEND IT DOWN TO
VANCOUVER AND FINISH IT THERE.

-08:-26:-42.-375 --> -08:-26:-41.-375
AND THEY SAID \"NO.\"

-08:-26:-38.-041 --> -08:-26:-36.-321
THE TOTEM POLE COMMITTEE
WANTS \'EM BOTH HERE

-08:-26:-34.-917 --> -08:-26:-33.-197
SO THAT KIDS COULD
WATCH, WATCH US CARVE IT.

-08:-26:-25.-001 --> -08:-26:-23.-401
MY FATHER SHOWED ME
HOW TO CARVE IN 1947.

-08:-26:-14.-583 --> -08:-26:-13.-583
I WAS ONLY 12, 13.

-08:-26:-06.-917 --> -08:-26:-05.-597
AND WE WENT TO
RESIDENTIAL SCHOOL,

-08:-26:-02.-250 --> -08:-26:00.-810
I DID FINISH A COUPLE
OF TOTEM POLES,

-08:-25:-58.-750 --> -08:-25:-57.-750
SMALL ONES FOR TRAINING.

-08:-25:-55.-001 --> -08:-25:-53.-161
AND SOMEONE TOLD THE
PRINCIPAL ABOUT MY CARVING

-08:-25:-48.-333 --> -08:-25:-47.-333
AND HE...

-08:-25:-45.-250 --> -08:-25:-44.-250
HE GOT MAD AT ME.

-08:-25:-41.-667 --> -08:-25:-40.-547
TOLD ME...
SLAPPED ME AROUND.

-08:-25:-38.-208 --> -08:-25:-36.-128
HE TOLD ME THAT I\'M NOT
GOING TO THAT SCHOOL TO LEARN

-08:-25:-33.-001 --> -08:-25:-31.-361
HOW TO CARVE TOTEM
POLES, THE INDIAN WAYS.

-08:-25:-28.-834 --> -08:-25:-27.-274
YOU\'RE HERE TO LEARN
THE WHITE MAN WAYS.

-08:-25:-25.-250 --> -08:-25:-23.-010
HE TOLD ME, AND HE STUCK A
PENCIL - A LEAD PENCIL OF MINE

-08:-25:-17.-500 --> -08:-25:-16.-500
IN HERE...

-08:-25:-13.-001 --> -08:-25:-12.-001
THE LEAD
STAYED INSIDE.

-08:-25:-07.-208 --> -08:-25:-05.-568
THEY HAD TO CUT IT OUT
WITH A RAZOR BLADE.

-08:-25:-03.-500 --> -08:-25:-02.-500
GET THE LEAD OUT.

-08:-24:-58.-542 --> -08:-24:-56.-422
(Derek) I SEE THE MUSEUMS
AS SOMETHING PARALLEL TO THE

-08:-24:-54.-542 --> -08:-24:-52.-062
BOARDING SCHOOL IN THE FACT THAT
ALL THE ARTIFACTS ARE IN THERE

-08:-24:-49.-917 --> -08:-24:-48.-437
AND BASICALLY SHUT
OFF FROM OUR PEOPLE

-08:-24:-43.-375 --> -08:-24:-42.-175
SO THEY WON\'T BE
USED AGAIN EH!

-08:-24:-35.-001 --> -08:-24:-33.-001
BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED
TO OUR PEOPLE IN THE PAST,

-08:-24:-31.-001 --> -08:-24:-29.-281
ALL OF OUR PEOPLE SEEM
TO DO THINGS HALF WAY

-08:-24:-27.-542 --> -08:-24:-26.-542
AND THEN THEY QUIT EH.

-08:-24:-25.-458 --> -08:-24:-22.-978
THAT\'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
WANT TO SHOW THE YOUNG PEOPLE,

-08:-24:-22.-417 --> -08:-24:-20.-377
THAT ONCE YOU START SOMETHING
YOU HAVE TO FINISH IT.

-08:-24:-15.-001 --> -08:-24:-14.-001
IS THIS ME?

-08:-24:-13.-709 --> -08:-24:-12.-709
YUP, IT\'S YOU.

-08:-24:-12.-125 --> -08:-24:-11.-125
LOOK THE SAME.

-08:-24:-07.-292 --> -08:-24:-05.-772
OH NO. I HAVE TO FIX
THE EYEBROWS FIRST

-08:-24:-05.-001 --> -08:-24:-04.-001
AND THE POKEY CHIN.

-08:-23:-58.-001 --> -08:-23:-57.-834
SARAH!

-08:-23:-57.-001 --> -08:-23:-56.-709
WHAT?

-08:-23:-56.-125 --> -08:-23:-55.-125
OH, YOU CUT
MY EYEBALL!

-08:-23:-52.-667 --> -08:-23:-51.-667
(giggles)

-08:-23:-47.-333 --> -08:-23:-46.-133
HOW COME YOU
PUT LIPS IN THERE.

-08:-23:-44.-709 --> -08:-23:-43.-709
LOOKS LIKE YOU.

-08:-23:-42.-667 --> -08:-23:-41.-667
(giggles)

-08:-23:-41.-001 --> -08:-23:-40.-001
MY EYES,
MY NOSE.

-08:-23:-38.-125 --> -08:-23:-37.-125
JUST WINK YOUR EYE.

-08:-23:-36.-083 --> -08:-23:-35.-083
YEP, YEP,
THERE YOU GO.

-08:-23:-34.-001 --> -08:-23:-33.-001
JUST WAIT,
THIS SIDE.

-08:-23:-32.-208 --> -08:-23:-31.-208
YEAH, NOW
THERE WE GO.

-08:-23:-30.-333 --> -08:-23:-29.-333
NOW LOOK
THAT WAY -

-08:-23:-24.-417 --> -08:-23:-23.-417
EXACTLY.

-08:-23:-22.-542 --> -08:-23:-21.-542
OH, MUSTACHE.

-08:-23:-10.-500 --> -08:-23:-08.-900
(Henry) THEY TOLD THE
OWNER OF THIS POLE,

-08:-23:-06.-458 --> -08:-23:-05.-458
WHAT MY FATHER TOLD ME.

-08:-23:-04.-001 --> -08:-23:-02.-321
THAT WHEN THAT POLE
COMES BACK FROM SWEDEN,

-08:-23:-01.-709 --> -08:-22:-59.-629
TAKE THAT OLD POLE UP TO
MISK\'USA AND LEAVE IT THERE.

-08:-22:-56.-959 --> -08:-22:-55.-959
LAY IT ON THE GROUND.

-08:-22:-54.-917 --> -08:-22:-53.-197
GO BACK TO MOTHER NATURE
WHERE IT CAME FROM.

-08:-22:-50.-208 --> -08:-22:-49.-208
THEY TOLD ME.

-08:-22:-47.-834 --> -08:-22:-45.-874
BUT THE TOTEM POLE COMMITTEE
THEY\'VE GOT HERE NOW,

-08:-22:-42.-125 --> -08:-22:-40.-085
THEY WANT IT TO BE PRESERVED
MORE A CULTURAL CENTRE.

-08:-22:-12.-166 --> -08:-22:-10.-006
TRADITIONALLY A TOTEM POLE
WOULD BE CONNECTED DIRECTLY

-08:-22:-07.-792 --> -08:-22:-06.-792
INTO MOTHER EARTH.

-08:-22:-05.-542 --> -08:-22:-04.-462
A LONG TRENCH WOULD BE DUG,

-08:-22:-03.-875 --> -08:-22:-02.-395
GROWING DEEPER AND
DEEPER AS IT WENT.

-08:-22:-01.-001 --> -08:-21:-58.-720
THE BOTTOM THIRD OF THE POLE
WOULD BE LAID IN THE TRENCH,

-08:-21:-57.-375 --> -08:-21:-55.-495
THEN STOOD ERECT BY
BACKFILLING ROCKS AND DIRT,

-08:-21:-54.-001 --> -08:-21:-52.-561
ALLOWING IT TO
EVENTUALLY DECOMPOSE.

-08:-21:-51.-001 --> -08:-21:-49.-041
THUS FULFILLING A NATURAL,
EVEN SPIRITUAL PROCESS.

-08:-21:-42.-625 --> -08:-21:-41.-305
THERE ARE PLACES
ALONG THAT FIGURE

-08:-21:-40.-750 --> -08:-21:-39.-230
WHERE IT GOES DOWN
TO 17 INCHES, RIGHT?

-08:-21:-33.-750 --> -08:-21:-30.-950
AS THE DATE OF THE
REPLICA POLE\'S RAISING IN
MISK\'USA FAST APPROACHES,

-08:-21:-28.-458 --> -08:-21:-26.-138
THE QUESTION OF HOW IT WILL
BE SUPPORTED BECOMES AN ISSUE.

-08:-21:-25.-041 --> -08:-21:-22.-841
CAN YOU ACCEPT,
LET\'S SAY, THIS STEEL
TO BE SEEN OUTSIDE?

-08:-21:-20.-041 --> -08:-21:-18.-081
YOU HAVE TO IT\'S
GETTING TOO CLOSE
TO BEING RAISED.

-08:-21:-14.-667 --> -08:-21:-12.-587
IF WE PUT PIPE IN THE MIDDLE,
AS PER ORIGINAL DESIGN,

-08:-21:-10.-001 --> -08:-21:-08.-361
IF YOU CUT THIS SLOT
LIKE THAT, FIVE FEET,

-08:-21:-06.-083 --> -08:-21:-04.-683
WHICH IS, WE\'LL
SAY IT\'S UP TO HERE,

-08:-21:-03.-375 --> -08:-21:-02.-095
PUT THE PIPE
INSIDE AND YOU KNOW,

-08:-21:00.-583 --> -08:-20:-58.-423
YOU JUST PUT THIS BACK AS A,
AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A PLUG.

-08:-20:-54.-333 --> -08:-20:-52.-933
CAN YOU MAKE IT
SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

-08:-20:-50.-125 --> -08:-20:-49.-125
WHO\'S GOING
TO CUT IT OUT?

-08:-20:-48.-625 --> -08:-20:-47.-265
OH, I THOUGHT YOU\'LL
BE DOING THAT.

-08:-20:-42.-001 --> -08:-20:-39.-961
FACED WITH THIS PROBLEM,
THE QUESTION IS, WHY ISN\'T

-08:-20:-38.-292 --> -08:-20:-36.-172
THE REPLICA POLE BEING
RAISED IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY.

-08:-20:-35.000 --> -08:-20:-33.-720
OKAY, THIS IS
OUT. WHAT ABOUT...?

-08:-20:-30.-001 --> -08:-20:-29.-001
(laughter)

-08:-20:-26.-458 --> -08:-20:-25.-258
YOU REALLY WANT
ME TO TELL YOU?

-08:-20:-24.-001 --> -08:-20:-23.-709
(Gil)
YEAH!

-08:-20:-23.-041 --> -08:-20:-21.-241
BECAUSE WE ASKED THE
CARVER TO MAKE A REPLICA.

-08:-20:-20.-583 --> -08:-20:-19.-583
(Gil)
EXACT REPLICA.

-08:-20:-19.-001 --> -08:-20:-18.-001
EXACT REPLICA.

-08:-20:-17.-959 --> -08:-20:-15.-839
AND HE MADE AN EXACT REPLICA
- BY CUTTING OFF THE END.

-08:-20:-13.-001 --> -08:-20:-12.-001
IT WAS OUR MISTAKE.

-08:-20:-10.-375 --> -08:-20:-09.-175
BUT THAT\'S THE
WAY IT HAPPENED.

-08:-20:-02.-001 --> -08:-20:-01.-001
READY! GO!

-08:-19:-58.-667 --> -08:-19:-57.-667
OKAY, FORWARD!

-08:-19:-56.-250 --> -08:-19:-54.-170
THE REPLACEMENT POLE,
PROMISED THE MUSEUM IN SWEDEN,

-08:-19:-53.-333 --> -08:-19:-51.-853
NOW BEGINS ITS
LONG JOURNEY OVERSEAS.

-08:-19:-16.-250 --> -08:-19:-14.-730
LUFTHANSA CARGO
COOPERATED WITH LOUISA

-08:-19:-12.-166 --> -08:-19:-10.-246
IN ARRANGING THE SHIPPING
OF THE POLE TO SWEDEN.

-08:-19:-05.-667 --> -08:-19:-04.-627
THE AIRPLANE IS BRAND NEW.

-08:-19:-03.-083 --> -08:-19:-01.-443
IT MAKES ITS MAIDEN
CARGO VOYAGE TONIGHT,

-08:-19:00.-208 --> -08:-18:-58.-368
SO A SENSE OF OCCASION
ACCOMPANIES THE LOADING.

-08:-18:-56.-083 --> -08:-18:-54.-963
OCCASION MIXED WITH ANXIETY.

-08:-18:-53.-001 --> -08:-18:-50.-841
NO ONE HAS LOADED A NINE
METRE LONG TOTEM POLE BEFORE.

-08:-18:-46.-041 --> -08:-18:-44.-881
LET\'S ALL JUST
PUSH IT BY HAND

-08:-18:-44.-001 --> -08:-18:-43.-001
JUST REAL
FREE AND EASY.

-08:-18:-42.-542 --> -08:-18:-40.-782
NOW I GOT THE CONTROL,
SO I WON\'T LET IT HIT.

-08:-18:-40.-125 --> -08:-18:-38.-925
I\'LL BACK IT BACK
OUT THE DOOR.

-08:-18:-38.-041 --> -08:-18:-37.-041
VERY SLOW.

-08:-18:-36.-333 --> -08:-18:-35.-333
VERY SLOW.

-08:-18:-35.-001 --> -08:-18:-34.-001
OKAY, STOP
FOR A MINUTE.

-08:-18:-33.-001 --> -08:-18:-32.-001
STOP!

-08:-18:-31.-625 --> -08:-18:-30.-625
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA!

-08:-18:-30.-208 --> -08:-18:-29.-208
YEAH, STRAIGHT AHEAD.

-08:-18:-28.-667 --> -08:-18:-27.-667
LET ME DO IT!

-08:-18:-23.-001 --> -08:-18:-22.-001
YOU GOT ER!

-08:-18:-21.-500 --> -08:-18:-20.-500
WHOO!

-08:-18:-18.-417 --> -08:-18:-17.-417
ALL RIGHT!

-08:-18:-17.-375 --> -08:-18:-16.-255
THAT WAS MAXED
OUT, YOU GUYS!

-08:-17:-57.-458 --> -08:-17:-56.-458
(chain saw noise)

-08:-17:-16.-542 --> -08:-17:-15.-542
HOLD IT,
PULL THE PIN!

-08:-17:-10.-083 --> -08:-17:-09.-083
GOT IT!

-08:-17:-09.-001 --> -08:-17:-08.-001
OKAY!

-08:-17:-07.-834 --> -08:-17:-06.-834
EASY!

-08:-16:-58.-667 --> -08:-16:-57.-107
(Henry) HAS TO BE
BALANCED IN THERE TOO.

-08:-16:-55.-792 --> -08:-16:-54.-792
THEN IT WON\'T
ROLL AROUND.

-08:-16:-48.000 --> -08:-16:-47.000
1,400 POUNDS.

-08:-16:-46.-417 --> -08:-16:-44.-257
YOU KNOW THOSE TRUCKS WILL
PACK THREE TONS COMFORTABLE.

-08:-15:-52.-917 --> -08:-15:-51.-717
DOES IT LOOK LIKE
THE OLD POLE?

-08:-15:-51.-001 --> -08:-15:-50.-001
WELL YES IT DOES.

-08:-15:-49.-709 --> -08:-15:-49.-125
IT REALLY DOES.

-08:-15:-48.-959 --> -08:-15:-46.-599
SPECIAL GUESTS FROM STOCKHOLM
HAVE BEEN INVITED TO KITAMAAT

-08:-15:-44.-292 --> -08:-15:-41.-972
VILLAGE TO WITNESS THE RAISING
OF THE REPLICA IN MISK\'USA.

-08:-15:-38.-001 --> -08:-15:-36.-281
WHEN I GO LIKE THAT,
YOU LIFT THE SAME TIME.

-08:-15:-32.-458 --> -08:-15:-31.-258
AND WHEN YOU
LIFT YOU SAY OOOF!

-08:-15:-28.-709 --> -08:-15:-27.-709
(all) OOOF!

-08:-15:-27.-001 --> -08:-15:-26.-001
(♪)

-08:-15:-02.-375 --> -08:-15:-01.-375
DOWN!

-08:-14:-55.-001 --> -08:-14:-54.-001
\'KAY!

-08:-14:-53.-375 --> -08:-14:-52.-375
YOU\'RE DONE!

-08:-14:-44.-917 --> -08:-14:-42.-997
IT\'S NOW THE CARVERS\'
CEREMONIAL DUTY AND HONOUR

-08:-14:-41.-542 --> -08:-14:-39.-862
TO WAKE UP THE SPIRIT
OF THE REPLICA POLE.

-08:-14:-37.-500 --> -08:-14:-36.-460
THEY CIRCLE IT FOUR TIMES,

-08:-14:-34.-375 --> -08:-14:-32.-495
BLOWING BREATHS OF LIFE
INTO THE POLE\'S FIGURES.

-08:-14:-22.-625 --> -08:-14:-21.-585
(drums and Native singing)

-08:-13:-26.-709 --> -08:-13:-25.-709
READY?
LET\'S GO.

-08:-13:-24.-917 --> -08:-13:-23.-917
EASY!

-08:-13:-23.-458 --> -08:-13:-21.-818
ONE HERE, ONE HERE,
ONE HERE. QUICK QUICK!

-08:-13:-21.-001 --> -08:-13:-20.-001
GOTTA
GO FORWARD.

-08:-13:-19.-458 --> -08:-13:-18.-458
SOMEBODY GET
THE CENTRE!

-08:-13:-17.-292 --> -08:-13:-16.-292
SOMEBODY UP HERE.

-08:-13:-02.-250 --> -08:-13:-01.-210
(drums and Native singing)

-08:-12:-51.-001 --> -08:-12:-49.-081
ON THE SAME DAY AS THE
POLE RAISING IN MISK\'USA,

-08:-12:-48.000 --> -08:-12:-45.-640
THE REPLACEMENT
POLE IS ARRIVING AT
THE MUSEUM IN STOCKHOLM.

-08:-12:-34.-500 --> -08:-12:-32.-700
(Gil) NOW IS THIS BACK
HERE, THE MAIN VILLAGE?

-08:-12:-31.-542 --> -08:-12:-30.-502
YEAH, OVER
THERE I REMEMBER

-08:-12:-29.-001 --> -08:-12:-27.-041
THEY CUT THE TREE WHERE
THE TOTEM POLE COMES FROM.

-08:-12:-25.-001 --> -08:-12:-24.-001
CARVED THERE.

-08:-12:-19.-208 --> -08:-12:-18.-208
128 YEARS AGO.

-08:-12:-11.-125 --> -08:-12:-09.-125
AT MISK\'USA, EAGLES GATHER
TO WELCOME THE VISITORS.

-08:-12:-05.-458 --> -08:-12:-03.-938
(Native drums and
chanting throughout)

-08:-11:-58.-959 --> -08:-11:-57.-959
WATCH THE STEP.

-08:-11:-52.-417 --> -08:-11:-51.-417
DOWN SOME MORE.

-08:-11:-50.-458 --> -08:-11:-49.-458
DOWN SOME MORE.

-08:-11:-48.-417 --> -08:-11:-47.-417
(♪)

-08:-10:-40.-001 --> -08:-10:-38.-121
AMONG THE SPECIAL GUESTS
INVITED TO THE RAISING

-08:-10:-37.-250 --> -08:-10:-36.-050
ARE MEMBERS OF
THE SAMI NATION,

-08:-10:-34.-333 --> -08:-10:-32.-893
THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE
OF SCANDINAVIA.

-08:-10:-31.-001 --> -08:-10:-28.-881
ALSO INVITED, IS OLOF HANSON\'S
DAUGHTER, LINEA HANSON.

-08:-10:-26.-001 --> -08:-10:-23.-641
(Gerald) SHE WAS PRETTY HAPPY
THAT SHE WAS ABLE TO BE THERE,

-08:-10:-22.-458 --> -08:-10:-20.-818
TO WITNESS A POLE BEING
RAISED ON THE SITE

-08:-10:-20.-333 --> -08:-10:-18.-213
THAT THE ORIGINAL WAS TAKEN
FROM. SHE WAS NOT TOO KEEN

-08:-10:-15.-583 --> -08:-10:-13.-183
ON THIS POLE BEING GIVEN BACK
TO US, BUT SHE\'S BOUGHT INTO IT

-08:-10:-11.-625 --> -08:-10:-09.-425
AND I THINK THAT IN ITSELF
SUGGESTS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE

-08:-10:-08.-625 --> -08:-10:-06.-905
UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE
OF THIS PROJECT.

-08:-10:-05.-667 --> -08:-10:-03.-947
OKAY, WE\'RE
GOING TO PULL ON
BOTH SIDES EVEN.

-08:-10:-02.-292 --> -08:-10:-01.-052
AND WE\'RE GOING
TO KEEP PULLING.

-08:-09:-59.-959 --> -08:-09:-58.-959
LET\'S GO!

-08:-09:-58.-709 --> -08:-09:-57.-709
VERY GENTLY,
VERY GENTLY!

-08:-09:-54.-250 --> -08:-09:-53.-250
GROUP PULL!
GROUP PULL!

-08:-09:-51.-125 --> -08:-09:-50.-125
PULL AT THE BACK!

-08:-09:-49.-417 --> -08:-09:-48.-417
PULL!

-08:-09:-47.-208 --> -08:-09:-46.-208
HOLD ON THE BACK!

-08:-09:-45.-542 --> -08:-09:-44.-542
N(shouting instructions)

-08:-09:-38.-500 --> -08:-09:-37.-140
ON THAT SIDE!
PULL BACK! PULL BACK!

-08:-09:-34.-001 --> -08:-09:-33.-001
(Cheering)

-08:-09:-28.-041 --> -08:-09:-27.-041
(cheers and applause)

-08:-09:-05.-792 --> -08:-09:-04.-792
(♪)

-08:-08:-59.000 --> -08:-08:-57.-600
THE RAISING OF
THE MISK\'USA REPLICA

-08:-08:-56.-001 --> -08:-08:-54.-881
MARKS THE END OF ITS JOURNEY

-08:-08:-54.-001 --> -08:-08:-52.-161
AND THE BEGINNING OF A
JOURNEY FOR THE CARVERS.

-08:-08:-48.-834 --> -08:-08:-47.-594
THE REPLACEMENT
POLE AWAITS THEM

-08:-08:-46.-292 --> -08:-08:-45.-212
AT THE MUSEUM IN STOCKHOLM.

-08:-08:-21.-625 --> -08:-08:-20.-625
LIKE MOST MUSEUMS,

-08:-08:-19.-709 --> -08:-08:-17.-869
THE FOLKENS MUSEUM HAS AN
EXTENSIVE COLLECTION

-08:-08:-17.-001 --> -08:-08:-14.-641
OF NORTH AMERICAN ABORIGINAL
ARTIFACTS AND CULTURAL CURIOS.

-08:-08:-04.-208 --> -08:-08:-02.-408
(Per) IN THE MUSEUM,
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING

-08:-08:00.-292 --> -08:-07:-58.-612
YOU DON\'T DO VERY OFTEN
- GIVE THINGS BACK.

-08:-07:-55.-834 --> -08:-07:-54.-554
I\'M INVOLVED IN
THESE THINGS NOW,

-08:-07:-53.-542 --> -08:-07:-52.-542
THANKS TO
THE TOTEM POLE.

-08:-07:-52.000 --> -08:-07:-50.-400
I WORK WITH THE ETHICS
COMMITTEE OF ICOM,

-08:-07:-49.-500 --> -08:-07:-48.-060
THE INTERNATIONAL
COUNCIL OF MUSEUMS.

-08:-07:-47.-709 --> -08:-07:-45.-428
WHERE REPATRIATION\'S A VERY
BIG THING, AN IMPORTANT THING.

-08:-07:-44.-250 --> -08:-07:-42.-050
BECAUSE WE SAY THAT, WELL,
WHY SHOULD A PEOPLE, A GROUP,

-08:-07:-38.-001 --> -08:-07:-35.-761
A NATION OR WHATEVER, LACK THE
THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR

-08:-07:-33.-001 --> -08:-07:-30.-801
COLLECTIONS, IN OUR STORAGE
ROOMS. VERY OFTEN YOU\'LL SEE

-08:-07:-29.-250 --> -08:-07:-26.-850
THINGS COME TO COUNTRIES WHERE
THEY DON\'T HAVE ANYTHING LEFT.

-08:-07:-24.-001 --> -08:-07:-21.-841
BUT THE BEST COLLECTIONS THAT
ARE SPREAD OUT TO MUSEUMS

-08:-07:-21.-001 --> -08:-07:-19.-161
IN THE WESTERN WORLD,
OR TO PRIVATE COLLECTORS,

-08:-07:-17.-417 --> -08:-07:-15.-136
WHILE THEY THEMSELVES THEY
HAVE NOTHING AND THIS IS WRONG.

-08:-06:-48.-166 --> -08:-06:-47.-166
(Henry) IT\'S BIGGER EH?

-08:-06:-46.-083 --> -08:-06:-45.-083
(♪)

-08:-05:-49.-458 --> -08:-05:-48.-458
IT\'S ALMOST
RIGHT IN HALF.

-08:-05:-46.-709 --> -08:-05:-45.-469
IT\'S ALMOST SPLIT
RIGHT IN HALF.

-08:-05:-38.-001 --> -08:-05:-36.-921
A SHAME FOR IT
TO HAVE TO...

-08:-05:-26.-250 --> -08:-05:-25.-090
HENRY, DEREK, BARRY AND TRISH

-08:-05:-23.-542 --> -08:-05:-21.-782
NOW NUMBER AMONG THE
VERY FEW OF THEIR PEOPLE

-08:-05:-20.-417 --> -08:-05:-19.-097
WHO HAVE SEEN
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE.

-08:-05:-07.-542 --> -08:-05:-06.-342
MY GRANDFATHER,
MY GRANDFATHER.

-08:-05:-03.-875 --> -08:-05:-02.-875
YEAH, WHO MADE IT.

-08:-05:-02.-041 --> -08:-05:-01.-041
WHAT WAS HIS NAME?

-08:-05:00.-041 --> -08:-04:-59.-041
SOLOMON.

-08:-04:-58.-667 --> -08:-04:-57.-667
SOLOMON?

-08:-04:-57.-166 --> -08:-04:-56.-959
ROBERTSON.

-08:-04:-56.-417 --> -08:-04:-54.-577
(Karin) OH YES, OF COURSE,
YOU MUST BE TOUCHED.

-08:-04:-48.-041 --> -08:-04:-46.-681
AND THIS MUSEUM
WAS BUILT FOR THIS?

-08:-04:-44.-750 --> -08:-04:-43.-750
THE BUILDING, YEAH.

-08:-04:-43.-001 --> -08:-04:-40.-881
KARIN WESTWARD IS AN EDUCATION
OFFICER AT THE MUSEUM.

-08:-04:-38.-250 --> -08:-04:-36.-610
SHE IS PART-SAMI, A
PEOPLE WHO THEMSELVES

-08:-04:-35.-001 --> -08:-04:-33.-281
HAVE KNOWN THE SEVERING
OF ANCESTRAL LINKS.

-08:-04:-30.-667 --> -08:-04:-28.-907
(Karin) WHEN THE TOTEM
POLE GOT HERE IN 1929,

-08:-04:-26.-667 --> -08:-04:-24.-667
IT BECAME STATE PROPERTY,
ACCORDING TO SWEDISH LAW.

-08:-04:-22.-001 --> -08:-04:-19.-441
AND THAT\'S WHY IT WAS FORMULATED
THAT IT HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF,

-08:-04:-15.-917 --> -08:-04:-14.-317
BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE
SPENT YEARS AND YEARS

-08:-04:-11.-792 --> -08:-04:-10.-432
LOOKING AFTER IT
AND PRESERVING IT.

-08:-04:-08.-208 --> -08:-04:-06.-888
SO THIS IS A VERY
COMPLEX PROJECT.

-08:-04:-03.-834 --> -08:-04:-01.-553
IT HAS A LONG, LONG HISTORY
AND CONTAINS A LOT OF OPINIONS

-08:-03:-56.-875 --> -08:-03:-54.-715
AND EMOTIONS AND IT\'S VERY,
VERY DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX.

-08:-03:-50.-709 --> -08:-03:-49.-709
(drums and chanting)

-08:-03:-38.-001 --> -08:-03:-37.-001
(♪)

-08:-02:-30.-458 --> -08:-02:-28.-778
THE CARVERS THEMSELVES
ARE NOW ON DISPLAY.

-08:-02:-24.-959 --> -08:-02:-23.-119
AND THOUGH EVOCATIVE OF
THE HISTORY OF MUSEUMS

-08:-02:-22.000 --> -08:-02:-20.-120
PUTTING INDIANS UNDER
GLASS, IT IS INTENTIONAL.

-08:-02:-12.-250 --> -08:-02:-11.-250
WHAT?

-08:-02:-10.-041 --> -08:-02:-09.-041
(giggles)

-08:-02:-05.-125 --> -08:-02:-02.-805
(Per) IT\'S A VERY IMPORTANT
PART FOR THE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.

-08:-02:-01.-292 --> -08:-01:-59.-132
WE HAVE TO TELL HISTORY -
ESPECIALLY TO BE ABLE TO TELL

-08:-01:-58.-001 --> -08:-01:-56.-001
THE CHILDREN IT, BECAUSE
THEY HAVE THIS VULGAR IDEA

-08:-01:-55.-417 --> -08:-01:-53.-017
THAT TOTEM POLES WERE SOMETHING
WHERE YOU TIED UP THE ENEMIES

-08:-01:-51.-001 --> -08:-01:-49.-121
AND YOU THREW AXES AT THEM
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

-08:-01:-48.-709 --> -08:-01:-47.-189
THAT\'S THESE INDIAN
BOOKS AND ALL THAT.

-08:-01:-40.-125 --> -08:-01:-38.-965
THE TOTEM POLE,
THE OLD POLE -

-08:-01:-37.-792 --> -08:-01:-36.-672
THAT\'S WHERE
IT WAS STANDING.

-08:-01:-34.-917 --> -08:-01:-32.-997
(Per) ONE OF THE GOALS
WITH GIVING THE POLE BACK,

-08:-01:-31.-041 --> -08:-01:-28.-881
WAS TO BUILD UP A LIVE CONTACT
WITH THE KITAMAAT GROUP,

-08:-01:-26.-001 --> -08:-01:-24.-641
THE PEOPLE THERE,
ON A HUMAN BASIS,

-08:-01:-23.-250 --> -08:-01:-22.-010
NOT JUST WE
GIVE BACK SOMETHING.

-08:-01:-20.-375 --> -08:-01:-18.-615
BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF
THINGS COMING BACK TO US

-08:-01:-17.-583 --> -08:-01:-16.-183
- THEIR EXPERIENCE,
THEIR KNOWLEDGE,

-08:-01:-15.-001 --> -08:-01:-13.-721
THEIR THOUGHTS,
THEIR FRIENDSHIP.

-08:-01:-12.-792 --> -08:-01:-10.-872
MOST PEOPLE THINK THAT
MUSEUMS ARE ABOUT OBJECTS.

-08:-01:-07.-625 --> -08:-01:-06.-265
BUT MUSEUMS ARE
ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS.

-08:-01:-01.-292 --> -08:-01:00.-092
DAY AFTER DAY,
YEAR AFTER YEAR,

-08:00:-57.-542 --> -08:00:-56.-302
THE STORY OF
THE G\'PSGOLOX POLE

-08:00:-55.-001 --> -08:00:-53.-841
IS TOLD TO THE
SWEDISH PUBLIC.

-08:00:-48.-625 --> -08:00:-46.-585
THE HAISLA WOULD LIKE TO
HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY.

-08:00:-38.-625 --> -08:00:-36.-625
(Karin) WHEN WE\'RE TELLING
THE STORY HERE ABOUT THE

-08:00:-35.-500 --> -08:00:-33.-460
TOTEM POLE AND WHY IT\'S
IMPORTANT THAT IT GOES BACK,

-08:00:-32.-001 --> -08:00:-29.-801
MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT
AND THEY WANT IT TO GO BACK.

-08:00:-18.-041 --> -08:00:-15.-681
(Louisa) I REALLY WANTED THE
OLD POLE TO BE A TEACHING TOOL.

-08:00:-10.-625 --> -08:00:-09.-345
IT\'S AN EXTENSION
OF OUR CULTURE.

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IT HOLDS THE UMBILICAL -

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INVISIBLE UMBILICAL
CORD OF OUR ANCESTORS.

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AND IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE OLD
POLE AND PUT IT IN A MUSEUM,

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OUR CHILDREN COULD SEE
AND OBSERVE IT FIRST HAND,

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IN UNDERSTANDING THE
HISTORY OF OUR PEOPLE.

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IN KITAMAAT VILLAGE,
THE DILEMMA REMAINS.

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TO HOUSE THE POLE ACCORDING
TO THE MUSEUM\'S STANDARDS,

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OR TO RESPECT THEIR
CULTURAL TRADITIONS.

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(Louise) WE KNOW THAT THE
PROTOCOL OF THE TOTEM POLE.

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AND... IT IS A
PAINFUL THING TO,

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TO ERECT IT IN A MUSEUM.

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OUR CULTURE IS THAT WHEN
IT FALLS, LET IT GO.

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MOTHER EARTH WILL COVER
IT. WHEN THAT THING

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IS NO LONGER THERE,
THE NEW ONE WILL COME.

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SO IN MY JOURNEY I\'M
KIND OF LITTLE HEAVINESS.

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I HAVE BROKEN THAT.

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I HAVE NOW AGREED,

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WE\'LL PUT IT IN A MUSEUM,

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THE WHITE MAN
WAY OF THINKING.

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I HAVE BROKEN
SOMETHING HERE.

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IT WON\'T GO BACK TO THE
WOMB OF MOTHER EARTH NOW.

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(Derek) AND THAT\'S WHERE
THE PAIN COMES FROM.

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BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
WHEN WE WORK ON THIS,

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WE FEEL HAPPINESS BECAUSE
WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO

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TO REPRESENT OUR
PEOPLE IN A GOOD WAY.

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BECAUSE THAT OLD POLE, WHEN
IT COMES BACK TO OUR TERRITORY,

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IT\'LL BRING BACK THE
SPIRIT OF OUR ANCESTORS.

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WHEN WE MAKE THIS, WE SHOW,
WE WILL SHOW YOU THE PAIN

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AND THE HAPPINESS THAT
WE HAVE IN OUR LIFE.

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THANK YOU.

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I WANT TO SAY,
I FEEL IT\'S VERY
GENEROUS OF YOU

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TO MAKE SUCH A
THING FOR US.

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AND GIVE US A HINT
OF YOUR HISTORY AND
OF YOUR BELIEFS.

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AND THE
COMBINATION.

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(Louise) TO GIVE
THIS REPLACEMENT POLE

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IS A GESTURE OF FORGIVENESS.

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BUT I REALLY FEEL THAT
THE SWEDES NEED TO DO MORE

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TO HELP US BRING
THAT POLE HOME.

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WHERE WE DIDN\'T - WE
DIDN\'T GIVE THE POLE AWAY.

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THE POLE WAS TAKEN FROM
WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY.

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AND FOR THE SWEDES TO BE
WAITING FOR US TO FINANCE THIS,

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YOU KNOW -
THAT\'S VERY WRONG.

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BECAUSE THAT\'S WHAT\'S
HOLDING EVERYTHING UP.

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THE CARVERS\' WORK
NEARS COMPLETION

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AND THE CANADIAN EMBASSY
SPONSORS A RECEPTION

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CELEBRATING THE NEW POLE.

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BUT THE HAISLA WILL CELEBRATE

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WHEN THE G\'PSGOLOX
POLE RETURNS HOME.

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(Derek) WE BELIEVE IN SHARING.

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AND THAT\'S WHY OUR LAW MADE
US COME HERE AND DO THAT -

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BECAUSE WE HAVE
TO SHARE WITH YOU.

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SHARE WITH YOU OUR HAPPINESS
AND AT THE SAME TIME

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SHARE WITH YOU OUR
PAIN AND SUFFERING.

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BUT TO SEE THAT
POLE UP THERE

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BRINGS BOTH SADNESS AND
HAPPINESS IN MY HEART.

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SADNESS IN THE FACT THAT WHAT
HAS HAPPENED TO OUR PEOPLE

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IS REPRESENTED BY
WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE.

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AND HAPPINESS AT THE SAME
TIME, TO SEE THAT FINALLY

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OUR PEOPLE ARE BEING
RECOGNIZED AS HUMAN BEINGS.

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OUR PEOPLE ARE BEING FINALLY
RECOGNIZED AS PEOPLE,

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NOT OBJECTS OF ARCHEOLOGY
OR OBJECTS OF ANTHROPOLOGY.

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NEW HISTORY THAT
POLE IS CREATING.

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AND WHEN IT\'S FINISHED,
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT,

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EACH AND EVERY
ONE OF YOU IN HERE

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WILL BE PART
OF THAT HISTORY,

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BECAUSE YOU\'VE WITNESSED
SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEING DONE.

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I WANT YOU TO
LOOK AT THAT POLE

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AND SEE YOURSELF
IN THAT POLE.

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I WANT YOU TO
LOOK IN THAT POLE

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AND SEE YOUR NEIGHBOURS
IN THAT POLE.

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I WANT YOU TO
LOOK IN THAT POLE

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AND SEE YOUR ENEMIES
IN THAT POLE,

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AND ACCEPT THAT
POLE AS YOUR FRIEND.

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AND ACCEPT EACH
OTHER AS A FRIEND.

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THERE.

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(chuckles)

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WE HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION
OF THE POLE PROJECT,

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AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
HERE IN OUR TRADITION

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IS TO WAKE UP THE
SPIRIT OF THIS POLE

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AND PREPARE IT FOR
TRAVELING UPSTAIRS.

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AND HOPEFULLY WHEN
WE BLOW IN THAT,

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THE SPIRIT THAT IS IN THIS
WILL AWAKEN YOUR SPIRIT.

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SO THAT YOU TOO MAY
HAVE RESPECT FOR WHAT
HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU.

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OUR PEOPLE TRADITIONALLY
NEVER TOUCHED A POLE

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WHEN IT FELL DOWN.

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IF IT FELL DOWN,
YOU LEAVE IT THERE

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BECAUSE IT HAS
FINISHED ITS JOB.

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THIS ONE HERE, WE
HAVE TO WAKE IT UP,

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SO IT CAN START ITS JOB,

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BECAUSE IT\'S GOING TO TAKE THE
PLACE OF THAT OLD ONE UP THERE.

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LET IT REST BESIDE
THE OLD ONE FIRST.

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LET IT RECEIVE THE
POWER OF THE OLD ONE.

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LET IT RECEIVE THE
EYES OF THE OLD ONE.

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LET IT RECEIVE THE
EARS OF THE OLD ONE.

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LET IT RECEIVE THE
HEART OF THE OLD ONE.

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BEFORE WE TAKE
THE OLD ONE BACK.

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(all) WHOO!

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(♪)

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AND WHEN THAT OLD ONE
COMES BACK TO OUR PEOPLE,

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I HOPE THAT THAT BRINGS BACK THE
PRIDE TO OUR YOUNGER GENERATION,

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SO THAT THEY TOO WILL
LEARN THEIR OWN HISTORY.

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AND I PRAY THAT THAT
HISTORY WILL COME BACK.

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WHEN THAT OLD POLE GOES
BACK TO OUR OWN TERRITORY.

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BECAUSE IT\'S
COMPLETED ITS JOB.

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(♪)