The biggest retardant on OA progress today is hence a distracting focus on pre-emptive Gold OA (including the conflation of the journal affordability problem with the research accessibility problem, and the conflation of Gold ...

SCOAP3 is an experimental implementation of a pre-emptive Rowsean flip, but it is local, and in a unique field (particle physics) that already provides 100% Green OA by self-archiving. SCOAP3's is hence simply a consortial ...

It is beyond my powers of comprehension to fathom why Cornell University would want to throw $50K of scarce library funds at funding Gold OA publication (for at most 1% of Cornell's annual journal article output) without first ...

But it does seem as profligate as it is unnecessary to propose squandering scarce research money today on paying Gold OA publishing fees pre-emptively while Green OA mandates are still so few and subscription fees are ...

(10) Hence pre-emptive redirection of scarce research funds to pay for Gold is premature and unnecessary today; what is necessary today is the Green mandates for which so many are now petitioning the European ...

Pre-emptively committing to pay Gold OA publication fees over and above paying subscription fees will only provide OA for a small fraction of a university's total research article output; Green OA mandates will provide OA for ...

The gold OA publication cost per article, however, post-green-OA, will be far lower than the asking price for pre-emptive gold OA today, because in converting from subscription publishing to gold OA publishing under the ...

Research funders and institutions would do well to heed Professor Imboden's cautions about pre-emptive Gold OA, and about the need carefully to think things through, for both scalability and sustainability. And meanwhile ...

Pre-emptively doing that redirection now, however, journal by journal -- especially with no necessary match between subscription input and publication output at the journal or field level at a given university -- may look like it ...

As all of the UK research councils, as well as some of the major UK funding charities, have green mandates in place I don't see how this can possibly be described as 'pre-emptive gold fever'. I'm so glad you said that, David!

(But if an institution or funder has the extra cash to spare, there's no harm in paying pre-emptive gold OA fees for as much research output as they can afford today -- as long as they mandate green OA for all of it first.) 8.

(I suspect that in the case of EPSRC, this may partly be driven by an ongoing experiment in paying pre-emptively for Gold OA publishing in (part of) the physics community: Instead of just mandating Green OA deposits and ...

(In addition, the very same scarcity of funds that makes pre-emptive Gold OA payment for journal articles today premature and ineffectual also makes Gold OA payment for monographs unaffordable, because the university ...

The rest, in contrast, is all a matter of pre-emptive (and paralytic) speculation and counter-speculation: Can-we, could-we should-we reach 100% OA directly via Gold OA alone? Would it save money? Would it make publishing ...

Pre-emptively avoiding loopholes and pitfalls is indeed the optimal strategy. And it is precisely for that reason that instead of recommending that you emulate exactly the proposals of the FRPAA, the RCUK, or the European ...

So why are institutions instead wasting their time and money fussing over how to fit the round peg of institutional subscriptions into the square hole of institutional memberships today, via pre-emptive Gold OA funding ...

In other words, I think it is both unnecessary and counterproductive for individual authors (or Institutional Repository managers) to assume the pre-emptive burden of trying to sort out the double-talk that the publisher posts, ...

Let me close with the pre-emptive re-posting of the abstract of the paper that answers the habitual rebuttal to what I have just said, namely, that green OA self-archiving is "parasitic" on journal publishers: Harnad, S. (2011) ...

Does the first step really have to be pre-emptive payment, even token payment, rather than just going ahead and mandating the Green and letting the future of publishing take care of itself -- while the research community takes ...

It is the role of the members of the press to provide public opinion with information on all this in a credible and balanced manner, and at the same time to avoid unjust accusations and pre-emptive judgments… "...The social ...

Ironically, I'll have to leave it to Phil Davis (of the Society for Scholarly Publishing's "Scholarly Kitchen") to flesh out the futility and fatuity of this latest outbreak of pre-emptive gold fever. (Only known antidote: Green OA ...

It would have been much more helpful if CERN had put its prestige and efforts behind promoting Green OA and Green OA mandates rather than this unnecessary pre-emptive conversion from Green OA to Gold OA.

... about doing anything that might instead help get us bogged down, yet again, in passive, pre-emptive speculation rather than practical action -- I too expect and welcome an eventual transition to Gold OA journal publishing, ...

Then (and only then) a transition to Gold OA will be payable out of institutions' windfall subscription cancellation savings -- and for a lot less than today's Gold OA's pre-emptive asking price, since the only thing left to pay for ...

But it would certainly make it harder to achieve Green OA1 for articles through Green OA1 mandates if we tried pre-emptively to insist on OA2 instead, or first. PMR: "There is no explicit mention in the GreenOA upload model ...

The remedy for that "partial coverage" is not to keep waiting for (and/or to pay the pre-emptive asking price of) journal-by-journal Gold OA, but to mandate Green OA right now, so we can reach 100% OA at long last. Lynch: "Of ...

Or is it all just a golden wish, waiting passively (apart from any spare money being spent on pre-emptive gold OA payments) for publishers to convert to gold and release everyone's subscription money (for incoming journals) ...

The rest is all pre-emptive speculation in place of objective testing and evidence (and rather self-serving speculation at that, aimed at pre-setting arbitrarily what should really be for the market to decide: whether anything else ...

... (journal-article self-archiving), focusing only on the former, and stressing the deterrent effect of having to pay publishing fees. (3) Why Pay Pre-Emptive Gold OA Fees? Gold OA publishing fees are certainly a deterrent today.

The objection is to any further delay in mandating Green OA, wasting still more time instead on continued bickering about paying pre-emptive Gold publishing fees. Let research funders and institutions mandate OA Green ...

So this, it seems to me, is yet another reason for not putting the accent on a pre-emptive "compact" to cover "reasonable" gold OA publication fees today, in the absence of universal OA mandates. I hasten to add that Harvard, ...

... all the negative evidence from physics, is the RCUK policy not the way to test that very hypothesis, if one is truly seeking objective evidence rather than simply seeking to draw pre-emptive conclusions from dire conjectures?

Hence the pre-emptive strategy for Harvard's proposed CMo mandate, to avoid the needless extra risk during the three-year trial period, would be to upgrade to CMo+DMn from the outset.) Peter Suber: By contrast, under a ...

(And it would be exceedingly self-defeating of the research community to even consider accepting such a pre-emptive suggestion as a precondition, before adopting self-archiving mandates.) There is some consistency in ...

Pre-emptive redirection of funds (by an institution or a funder) toward Gold OA, without being preceded by 100% Green OA, is a waste of money, effort and time, today. (After 100% Green OA it is fine, as long as there is no ...